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Title: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 25, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
We all know that not all of the characters have constant descriptions: Mapleshade being a perfect example. We also have Longtail, Firestar, ect. The brown or silver Longtail debate has been going on for ages, and we all know the thing with Firestar only being shown as a solid cat, despite being called ginger. There's also Tawnypelt, who some see as a tawny-color, and some who see her as a tortoiseshell cat.

So, how do you guys see each character?

Personally, I see Dustpelt as a light brown cat, actually. I'm not sure why, but when I first started reading Warriors, I didn't catch on to the fact that Dustpelt was actually dark brown, so ever since then, I've always drawn him as this lighter brown tabby with darker stripes. I also see a lot of people draw Tawnypelt as a darker tortie and a lighter tortie.

It's amazing how different we can interpret each character just by a name... of course, I'm not one for tradionalism, so you could name a pure white cat Blackheart or something like that and I wouldn't notice.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Journey on June 25, 2015, 09:14:58 PM
I always saw Graystripe as a dark gray tabby...just never bought the whole "one gray stripe running down his back" thing. And I still picture Blackstar as a black cat, not as white with black paws.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: moss on June 25, 2015, 09:19:28 PM
I just learned about the gray Longtail thing and um yeah brown Longtail all the way....

also does ginger not mean solid?? i just thought ginger meant orange
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: broadwaystar on June 25, 2015, 09:21:31 PM
I always pictured Yellowfang as having yellowish fur for the longest time. I tend to have trouble paying close attention to descriptions. =P

I see Firestar as being a solid orange color, like on the cover of ItW. I've always thought of Longtail as having brown fur. Tawnypelt is tortoiseshell to me.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 25, 2015, 09:28:50 PM
also does ginger not mean solid?? i just thought ginger meant orange
Pretty much all ginger cats are tabbies, realistically. Yet Firestar and Squirrelflight are the only two main characters that are ginger that haven't been specifically called tabbies that we've found yet...which is kinda interesting- they use 'tabby' a lot within the series, yet Firestar hasn't been called it once.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: moss on June 25, 2015, 09:31:08 PM
>warriors characters
>realistically

I always saw Firestar as being solid and Squirrelflight as being tabby actually
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Journey on June 25, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
I just learned about the gray Longtail thing and um yeah brown Longtail all the way....


What is this gray blasphemy! I always saw him as light brown.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 25, 2015, 09:38:20 PM
I just learned about the gray Longtail thing and um yeah brown Longtail all the way....


What is this gray blasphemy! I always saw him as light brown.

Story time!

Okay, so this probably started on the wiki (as most things do- like Bone's rainbow collar)- as a default coloring for tabbies who don't have a shade specified, we use brown. That's what we had for Longtail for...like...forever, until someone found a cite in Rising Storm that calls him silver. His images were then tweaked to silver for the longest time.. There was also another cite in that same book that called Longtail brown- which since it came after the silver cite, it was ruled as a mistake and we let it go.

After more than enough vandalism and comments about Longtail's pelt color, I finally decided to ask one of the users on Kate's blog about it, since she wrote Rising Storm. She explained that she saw Longtail as brown, not silver, so we had to change his images back to brown, making the silver mention in Rising Storm false.. as believe it or not, to our knowledge, his pelt color's only really been said that one time. Every other time, it's like "tabby" or "pale tabby".

So yeah, that's where that comes from. He's now a cited pale brown tabby with black stripes, instead of a silver-and-black tabby.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: moss on June 25, 2015, 09:40:47 PM
wowee

yeah i think pale tabby is probably what i remember or what stuck out to me and solidified the tan/light brown imagine in my mind
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Sunneth on June 25, 2015, 11:51:15 PM
I always pictured Yellowfang as having yellowish fur for the longest time. I tend to have trouble paying close attention to descriptions. =P

I see Firestar as being a solid orange color, like on the cover of ItW. I've always thought of Longtail as having brown fur. Tawnypelt is tortoiseshell to me.
A+ opinions these are all right and I won't believe anything else
especially the Yellowfang part? She's always been a scrawny, not-flat-faced yellow-tannish cat to me. Not gray and fluffy and with a flat face. She's totally an older Sandstorm (who, by the way, I see as a sandy yellow, and not ginger like she has been described to be, I think).

I think Sorreltail is supposed to be tortoiseshell but I always imagine her as calico (unless she is calico, then yay). All calico cats I tend to imagine having a lot of white. I always wanted to draw Sorreltail and Cherrytail and other calicos but the markings are so hard :C
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 26, 2015, 12:27:33 AM
I think Sorreltail is supposed to be tortoiseshell but I always imagine her as calico (unless she is calico, then yay). All calico cats I tend to imagine having a lot of white. I always wanted to draw Sorreltail and Cherrytail and other calicos but the markings are so hard :C
I was told that calicos are tortoiseshells or something along those lines??? I know someone asked Vicky about having a calico in the series and she said something about them always thinking they were the same thing..?

The only other thing I could think of was that calico is a type of pelt style? I'm honestly not sure and I'm horrible with cat stuff.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: moss on June 26, 2015, 12:29:31 AM
i always think of tortoiseshells as mostly black/dark brown and calicos as more white/orange/light brown but i don't know anything about cats
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Sunneth on June 26, 2015, 12:46:53 AM
I was under the impression that torties are the brown/black/orange pattern, and calicos are that but with white, but maybe a cat expert will come enlighten us

or I could just google it
supposedly calicos are white-based with large patches of black, brown, and orange and the colors don't usually mix, while torties are brindled/mixed together and mostly darker. torties can have white, but white-based cats are calico
that's probably very non-scientific and simplified, but ~yay~
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: rowan on June 26, 2015, 03:16:38 AM
I was under the impression that torties are the brown/black/orange pattern, and calicos are that but with white, but maybe a cat expert will come enlighten us

or I could just google it
supposedly calicos are white-based with large patches of black, brown, and orange and the colors don't usually mix, while torties are brindled/mixed together and mostly darker. torties can have white, but white-based cats are calico
that's probably very non-scientific and simplified, but ~yay~

Torties and calicoes are the same, but are classified as either one or the other depending on the white spotting percentage - 30% and less is tortie, 31%+ is calico.

Torties are always ginger mixed with black, brown, or another nondilute color (like cinnamon), but dilute ones are always cream (dilute ginger) with blue (gray), light brown, or another dilute color (like... fawn? I think?). Brown/black, blue/ginger, and black/ginger, for a few examples, aren't genetically sound O:

Torties always have XX genes because X carries one pelt color apiece - meaning if you want to mottle two together you'd need two of those bad boys. There are XXY cats that are designated male at birth, but those are usually sickly and infertile (and often don't live very long if not cared for!).

Redtail and Sol are both assumed XXY (and fertile, given Redtail had kits?), but I really like trans Redtail (and probably trans Sol), myself!
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Hawk on June 26, 2015, 03:24:50 AM
To me, Longtail is really pale brown with darker brown stripes on his legs and tail. Also, I always pictured Tawnypelt as a calico instead of a tortie.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 26, 2015, 05:11:41 AM
I was under the impression that torties are the brown/black/orange pattern, and calicos are that but with white, but maybe a cat expert will come enlighten us

or I could just google it
supposedly calicos are white-based with large patches of black, brown, and orange and the colors don't usually mix, while torties are brindled/mixed together and mostly darker. torties can have white, but white-based cats are calico
that's probably very non-scientific and simplified, but ~yay~

Torties and calicoes are the same, but are classified as either one or the other depending on the white spotting percentage - 30% and less is tortie, 31%+ is calico.

Torties are always ginger mixed with black, brown, or another nondilute color (like cinnamon), but dilute ones are always cream (dilute ginger) with blue (gray), light brown, or another dilute color (like... fawn? I think?). Brown/black, blue/ginger, and black/ginger, for a few examples, aren't genetically sound O:

Torties always have XX genes because X carries one pelt color apiece - meaning if you want to mottle two together you'd need two of those bad boys. There are XXY cats that are designated male at birth, but those are usually sickly and infertile (and often don't live very long if not cared for!).

Redtail and Sol are both assumed XXY (and fertile, given Redtail had kits?), but I really like trans Redtail (and probably trans Sol), myself!
Cue cat expert. ^^

That explains a lot and actually might help with future OCs...

Apparently Redtail is fertile, but the Erins have said before that they don't actually know much about genetics or anything of the sort, hence why we have tortie toms (which is supposed to be damn near impossible to even get) who last much longer than kithood. We have Redtail, Sol, and Robinwing of RiverClan that I can remember. I don't know if there are any others- we have such a large cast list, so I wouldn't be shocked if I forgot one...
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: rowan on June 26, 2015, 05:58:48 AM
I was under the impression that torties are the brown/black/orange pattern, and calicos are that but with white, but maybe a cat expert will come enlighten us

or I could just google it
supposedly calicos are white-based with large patches of black, brown, and orange and the colors don't usually mix, while torties are brindled/mixed together and mostly darker. torties can have white, but white-based cats are calico
that's probably very non-scientific and simplified, but ~yay~


Torties and calicoes are the same, but are classified as either one or the other depending on the white spotting percentage - 30% and less is tortie, 31%+ is calico.

Torties are always ginger mixed with black, brown, or another nondilute color (like cinnamon), but dilute ones are always cream (dilute ginger) with blue (gray), light brown, or another dilute color (like... fawn? I think?). Brown/black, blue/ginger, and black/ginger, for a few examples, aren't genetically sound O:

Torties always have XX genes because X carries one pelt color apiece - meaning if you want to mottle two together you'd need two of those bad boys. There are XXY cats that are designated male at birth, but those are usually sickly and infertile (and often don't live very long if not cared for!).

Redtail and Sol are both assumed XXY (and fertile, given Redtail had kits?), but I really like trans Redtail (and probably trans Sol), myself!

Cue cat expert. ^^

That explains a lot and actually might help with future OCs...

Apparently Redtail is fertile, but the Erins have said before that they don't actually know much about genetics or anything of the sort, hence why we have tortie toms (which is supposed to be damn near impossible to even get) who last much longer than kithood. We have Redtail, Sol, and Robinwing of RiverClan that I can remember. I don't know if there are any others- we have such a large cast list, so I wouldn't be shocked if I forgot one...


Not so much a cat expert, but after tryin' to make realistic cat characters I had to do some research myself! o/

I didn't know about Robinwing, hmm. I still prefer my trans headcanons to making 'em infertile and sickly - I just wish the Erins had done some actual research.

Speaking of: Kate actually posted about that particular topic. The site is a bit slow to load (http://erinhunter.katecary.co.uk/kate-answers-questions-junk-food-and-super-editions/) (book spoilers within!), but one of the last questions she's asked pertains to how much research they did.

(http://i.imgur.com/uvptnbC.png)

Welp! Okay. Making a cat book in a realistic setting? Just throw all cat genetics and related subjects out the dang window. That's the Erin Hunter Way (tm)!
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightflame on June 26, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
Spottedleaf's picture in The Ultimate Guide is how I've always picture Mapleshade.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Dustfeather on June 26, 2015, 01:42:38 PM
Regarding tortoiseshells vs. calicos, the term "calico" is hardly ever used in the UK and cats that are ginger, black, and white (or similar colouring) are generally just referred to as tortoiseshell or tortoiseshell-and-white. I think "tortoiseshell" is sort of an umbrella term, but also refers more specifically to a mottled black and ginger cat. I'm guessing this is why the Erins have never, to my knowledge, referred to any of their characters as calico, as the word is mostly only used in America :)

I imagined Longtail as being white, or very pale grey, with black stripes.

It was only when I started seeing fan art of Yellowfang that I realised she was portrayed with a flattened face. Before that, if anyone here ever played the PF. Magic Catz games, I imagined her as a grey version of the Alley Cat xD
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Ariel on June 26, 2015, 08:41:20 PM
Squirrelflight and Firestar were always solid color to me. Though lately, I picture Firestar as having pale tabby stripes.

Longtail had been a pale brown for me. It was so hard imagining him as gray.

Yellowfang started off as being a sandy-colored cat, but I switched over pretty quick once I realized my mistake.

I could never picture Redtail as a tortie. He was always just a ginger and white tabby to me. Now, Sol being a tortie makes sense to me. Tawnypelt I have a hard time as picturing being a tortie. It's easier for me to picture her as being a light brown (though there are times when I see her as a dilute tortie/torbie - but those are in the minority).

Blackstar is a weird case where I imagine him looking the way he's described, but whenever I draw him it just doesn't look right at all.

I also pictured Ivypool as being a silver tabby point for awhile.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 26, 2015, 08:50:21 PM
I also pictured Ivypool as being a silver tabby point for awhile.
Well, she is a silver tabby.. but a silver tabby point would be really pretty and now I like this idea. Given that the only place we know she has stripes is her tail (idk she was described with a striped tail, which seems really pointless to say), she could very well be some kind of tabby point. I like this idea and will support it until I have been proven otherwise.

And even then I will deny canon.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Archy on June 27, 2015, 11:11:15 PM
When I first got into Warriors, I thought the Thunderpaths were where lions and "monsters" were. Not actual cars o_O For the longest time, I thought Yellowfang was literally a yellow furred cat and when I found out she was flat-faced AND charcoal, needless to say I was shocked.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Spellmaster on June 28, 2015, 04:09:36 PM
I probably see most of the cats wrong because I don't know what so many of them are supposed to look like... Unless they're described a lot or I have to check the allegiances a lot, I tend to just forget the specifics. there's too many of them...

I think I always imagined Firestar as mostly solid orange, but I can easily see him with tabby stripes too. Yellowfang is still kind of a dull yellow-gray to me. Dustpelt has always been gray-brown because dust being brown does not make sense to me. Longtail... I think I remember mostly as light brown, but I never quite understood his markings so I probably went back and forth with black and silver and everything.

I've always thought of Hawkfrost as a very pale brown tabby... I guess because of the 'frost' in his name? I feel like he should be lighter than he is.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: glimmer on June 29, 2015, 10:45:56 AM
i imagined longtail as pale brown. i also imagine squirrelflight a little darker than firestar, and with more noticeable white on her belly and feet i guess? since it said she had one white paw and my brain just kinda took that and turned it into a bunch of other things.

i imagined sorreltail as calico with black, brown n ginger, and poppyfrost too but with more reddish colours i guess. spottedleaf, sol, blossomfall and tawnypelt are all tortie for me, and my mind can't decide on one for redtail - it keeps flicking back and forth between tortie and calico at random ;;

is dustpelt really dark brown?? i always imagined him as a pale greyish-brown omg
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Dustfeather on June 29, 2015, 02:41:22 PM
is dustpelt really dark brown?? i always imagined him as a pale greyish-brown omg

Same :P

Brackenfur confuses me, because he's described as "golden brown" in the allegiances, so I imagined him as a sort of light, yellowish-brown tabby, but it describes him as ginger in the actual text o_O
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Jilda on June 29, 2015, 05:25:34 PM
I refuse to see Dovewing with blue eyes. Nope.

She will always forever have green eyes for me. I just really prefer the idea that all of the three have different eye colors, and was so disappointed when they permanently changed it to blue as it was green originally.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: moss on June 29, 2015, 06:32:40 PM
let's be real though i see most of the characters as a cat shaped void

i've been reading bluestar's prophecy and like obviously bluefur is gray and snowfur is white but i don't actually know what anyone else looks like but i don't really notice that i don't

except i see goosefeather as a white cat with yellow feet and mouth/nose area :/
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 29, 2015, 08:24:29 PM
I refuse to see Dovewing with blue eyes. Nope.

She will always forever have green eyes for me. I just really prefer the idea that all of the three have different eye colors, and was so disappointed when they permanently changed it to blue as it was green originally.
I prefer her with green eyes myself and the joke with a few of my friends is that she has rainbow colored eyes, which is why the color never stays the same.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Jilda on June 29, 2015, 08:47:42 PM
I refuse to see Dovewing with blue eyes. Nope.

She will always forever have green eyes for me. I just really prefer the idea that all of the three have different eye colors, and was so disappointed when they permanently changed it to blue as it was green originally.
I prefer her with green eyes myself and the joke with a few of my friends is that she has rainbow colored eyes, which is why the color never stays the same.
Didn't she have amber eyes at some point too ??
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on June 29, 2015, 09:29:18 PM
I refuse to see Dovewing with blue eyes. Nope.

She will always forever have green eyes for me. I just really prefer the idea that all of the three have different eye colors, and was so disappointed when they permanently changed it to blue as it was green originally.
I prefer her with green eyes myself and the joke with a few of my friends is that she has rainbow colored eyes, which is why the color never stays the same.
Didn't she have amber eyes at some point too ??
It was gold/pale gold, but tbh it's all the same to me. They could never make up their minds. Kate said at one point that she thinks they're pale gold, but Vicky said blue, and the entire thing is a mess.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Dawnwing on June 29, 2015, 10:14:03 PM
Mostly I picture them as described.  I refuse to accept Birchfall's transformation from gray as a kit to brown as an apprentice/warrior, though; he's still gray in my mind.

I used to picture Longtail as a cream-colored cat with black stripes, but there was one point when I was a kid when I decided to draw all of ThunderClan's cats as they appeared per book (this was when Midnight was out, I think) and then I saw somewhere that he was gray, so I drew him that way and that's how he's been in my mind ever since.

Brackenfur confuses me, because he's described as "golden brown" in the allegiances, so I imagined him as a sort of light, yellowish-brown tabby, but it describes him as ginger in the actual text o_O
I picture Brackenfur as the color on the "date" and "quote" buttons on here.  That can be called "golden-brown" and also "ginger", depending on how you look at it.  If you look at a drying bracken stem, that's what color they are.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Splashy on June 29, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
Graystripe is perpetually a gray tabby to me even though he's not.  Firestar was always solid  because that's how he was depicted in cover images and such, and so is Squirrelflight to me. Leafpool I always saw as being a pale, pale brown tabby, like milky hot chocolate. 

The Longtail debate- I always see him as brown instead of gray for some reason. Though with his character I never particularly paid close attention to his descriptions. A weird one for was Yellowfang- I literally imagined her as a unsaturated yellow. Dustpelt was seen as a gray-brown for me too. 

Given how bad the Erins are with continuity with appearances the characters are always fluid for me. 
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Jilda on June 29, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
With the Longtail debate I don't really have a set description of him in my head. Sometimes I picture him cream with black stripes as that's how a lot of fan art draws him, sometimes I picture him gray. I can't for the life of me picture him brown though.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: broadwaystar on June 30, 2015, 01:55:09 AM
Reading this threat made me realize I'm way off in the way I've always pictured Redtail. I've always seen him as a solid red-brown color. 
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: glimmer on June 30, 2015, 09:34:33 PM
didn't tawnypelt also have the eye colour change issue? i remember her eyes being described as green, amber and possibly yellow at different points...
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: rowan on June 30, 2015, 09:37:17 PM
Redtail never had an eye color assigned to him, but I've always pictured him with orange eyes.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Spellmaster on July 03, 2015, 05:23:11 PM
I started Bramblestar's Storm recently and it was the first time I've looked at the main series allegiances in a long time
- Sandstorm is "pale ginger" and I'm not sure exactly what that means but I tend to think of her as a pale yellow/gold like... sand... not really reddish, more tan
- Berrynose and Rosepetal are "cream-" and "dark cream-colored" but I imagine them both as very dark?? when I hear "berry" I think of, like, blackberries or small red berries, not anything creamy
- I've never gotten Ivypool and Dovewing's appearances straight, I think I usually see Dovewing as white with blue eyes and Ivypool as gray with green eyes but I probably change that all the time

actually reading this I've realized I tend to imagine most cats as pretty close to solid colored (including Redtail and Sorreltail), even when they're actually tabbies or tortoiseshells... my brain doesn't want to put that much work into it
but (like moss said) I tend to imagine them mostly as vague shapes so I don't think about their colors much until I have to picture something very specific or I see them drawn or s/t
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on July 03, 2015, 09:12:24 PM
didn't tawnypelt also have the eye colour change issue? i remember her eyes being described as green, amber and possibly yellow at different points...
There are a lot of cats with eye color issues tbh. It's quite annoying as hell.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Jilda on July 04, 2015, 05:59:46 AM
Oh i remembered another one

I picture Heathertail with purple eyes even. though. cats. don't. have. that.

cause they said her eyes were the color of heather or w/e it was and its purple, I don't remember specifics

which out of curiosity; does anyone care when cats will be named after their eye colors in the books or when kits have their eye colors right when they open their eyes? It's personally never bothered me, but I know it's a pet peeve for some people in the fandom.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Dawnwing on July 06, 2015, 12:46:14 AM
Quote from: Jilda
Oh i remembered another one

I picture Heathertail with purple eyes even. though. cats. don't. have. that.

cause they said her eyes were the color of heather or w/e it was and its purple, I don't remember specifics

which out of curiosity; does anyone care when cats will be named after their eye colors in the books or when kits have their eye colors right when they open their eyes? It's personally never bothered me, but I know it's a pet peeve for some people in the fandom.
Oh, Heathertail's purple eyes are one for me too.  It was Kate or Vicky, I think, that said she pictured Heathertail with purple eyes even though cats don't have purple eyes, and that that's what was meant by describing them as the "color of heather".   Her Cats of the Clans picture even looks like it has purple eyes.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Wryfinch on July 06, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
I never had a clear-cut image of any characters in my head. Call them undetailed sketches, with only the pelt color and general build visible. Eye color is irrelevant.

Honestly, I just picture them all with yellow/orange eyes or kaleidoscopic eyes.... (Accurate Depiction of the Madness: Blue or green?? lol let's just say heterochromia owait how about RAINBOW/PURPLE SQUEEE)
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on July 06, 2015, 09:01:56 PM
Oh i remembered another one

I picture Heathertail with purple eyes even. though. cats. don't. have. that.

cause they said her eyes were the color of heather or w/e it was and its purple, I don't remember specifics

which out of curiosity; does anyone care when cats will be named after their eye colors in the books or when kits have their eye colors right when they open their eyes? It's personally never bothered me, but I know it's a pet peeve for some people in the fandom.
I don't care if a cat's named after their eye color... Do the Erins even know a cat's eye color can change after they're born? I mean, they don't do any research, so...
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: SQ on July 17, 2015, 03:54:49 PM
I think Sorreltail is supposed to be tortoiseshell but I always imagine her as calico (unless she is calico, then yay). All calico cats I tend to imagine having a lot of white. I always wanted to draw Sorreltail and Cherrytail and other calicos but the markings are so hard :C
I was told that calicos are tortoiseshells or something along those lines??? I know someone asked Vicky about having a calico in the series and she said something about them always thinking they were the same thing..?

The only other thing I could think of was that calico is a type of pelt style? I'm honestly not sure and I'm horrible with cat stuff.

Calicos are white based cats with at least two different colors (such as orange and black, or brown and gold splotches) and torties are black based.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: rowan on July 17, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
I think Sorreltail is supposed to be tortoiseshell but I always imagine her as calico (unless she is calico, then yay). All calico cats I tend to imagine having a lot of white. I always wanted to draw Sorreltail and Cherrytail and other calicos but the markings are so hard :C
I was told that calicos are tortoiseshells or something along those lines??? I know someone asked Vicky about having a calico in the series and she said something about them always thinking they were the same thing..?

The only other thing I could think of was that calico is a type of pelt style? I'm honestly not sure and I'm horrible with cat stuff.

Calicos are white based cats with at least two different colors (such as orange and black, or brown and gold splotches) and torties are black based.

Actually! Calicoes are just torties with 30%+ white spotting - basically, if they have a lot of white on them. Torties are just calicoes with less than 30% white spotting on them, so less white. Torties and calicoes must have ginger on them in addition to another non-red color (be it cinnamon, black, or chocolate). Dilute torties/calicoes must have cream instead of ginger as well as the dilute version of any of the pre-mentioned colors (fawn, grey/blue, etc). Ginger and other color can either be patched or mottled on the cat. White markings follow the same rules as all other cats with white markings - from the paws, chest, and muzzle, reaching towards the back, and touching the tail last. White markings don't mottle.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: SQ on July 17, 2015, 04:06:59 PM
I think Sorreltail is supposed to be tortoiseshell but I always imagine her as calico (unless she is calico, then yay). All calico cats I tend to imagine having a lot of white. I always wanted to draw Sorreltail and Cherrytail and other calicos but the markings are so hard :C
I was told that calicos are tortoiseshells or something along those lines??? I know someone asked Vicky about having a calico in the series and she said something about them always thinking they were the same thing..?

The only other thing I could think of was that calico is a type of pelt style? I'm honestly not sure and I'm horrible with cat stuff.

Calicos are white based cats with at least two different colors (such as orange and black, or brown and gold splotches) and torties are black based.

Actually! Calicoes are just torties with 30%+ white spotting - basically, if they have a lot of white on them. Torties are just calicoes with less than 30% white spotting on them, so less white. Torties and calicoes must have ginger on them in addition to another non-red color (be it cinnamon, black, or chocolate). Dilute torties/calicoes must have cream instead of ginger as well as the dilute version of any of the pre-mentioned colors (fawn, grey/blue, etc). Ginger and other color can either be patched or mottled on the cat. White markings follow the same rules as all other cats with white markings - from the paws, chest, and muzzle, reaching towards the back, and touching the tail last. White markings don't mottle.

I was just saying it in a simple way, not very... Technical :x We've always called calicos cats with orange and black that are more than 70% white, so..
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: rowan on July 17, 2015, 04:08:37 PM
I get what you mean! I just felt I should probably clarify a little bit, since torties are a bit weird in terms of genetics n' the like.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Larkbreeze on August 08, 2015, 02:43:51 AM
I think Spottedleaf is supposed to be a tortoiseshell but I always saw her as a calico. idk what I'm doing really

and I definitely never see Graystripe with some stripe going down his back. like what was with that

I also just imagined Tallstar as just.. really tall. I never actually saw the whole long tail thing

and I think Jayfeather is supposed to be a tabby but I always see him as solid gray
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: glimmer on August 08, 2015, 10:14:59 AM
just thought of another thing - i sometimes see jayfeather as being a bit longhaired because of the cover on the sight, i guess it just stuck. also i was reading moonrise yesterday and there was a time when leafpaw almost mistook spottedleaf for sorreltail, and i was instinctively surprised bc they look pretty different in my mind \_(ツ)_/
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Owlfrost on August 08, 2015, 12:21:41 PM
In fantasy books, I try not to imagine characters too realistic; I like to give them some qualities of fantastical designs.

I always imagined Bluestar with her usual gray-blue fur, a silver muzzle, and a silver fleck on her forehead shaped similar to a star (this is before I knew that -star was a leader suffix). I've always imagined her this way ever since, though, haha.

Tallstar I imagined to be a very tall cat, whose limbs are longer than normal, especially his tail. His fur is of course black and white as he's depicted in artworks. I always liked the white spot on his back and the white bit on his tail.

Graystripe I thought was just a lighter gray tabby with darker gray stripes. I didn't really like how he's depicted in manga pictures I've seen. It's kind of odd.

Tigerstar I pictured to be really muscular, with thicker legs and a broader face and chest. He kind of looks like a brute, a big dark brown tabby cat with the scar on his face and his torn V-shaped ear. He also has a stern face, probably permanently in a disgusted frown.

Firestar and Sandstorm are similar looking in my mind, but Sandstorm is a much lighter ginger tabby color than Firestar.

Can't really think of anymore at the moment, but these are the ones that I think about a lot when reading the series, lol.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Lightning on August 13, 2015, 10:28:01 PM
Because of @Ivypool, I now see Lightning Tail/Lightningtail as black-and-white.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Bramblemask on August 22, 2015, 04:04:11 PM
I believe calicos are described in the book as "tortoiseshell and white." So anytime a character is described as that, it's a calico.

I have a hard time seeing Thunder as dark ginger. He seems more like a dark gold tabby to me.
Longtail I imagine as a pale tan tabby (similar to manga!Millie). I see Millie more as a pale sandy tabby. Pale sandy for Sandstorm (I guess that could be classified as super light ginger though?). Firestar is a bright ginger tabby to me, while Squirrelflight is just bright ginger (even though that's unrealistic, but when has genetics and coat colors been realistic in these books?). Jackdaw's Cry always struck me as a dark grey tabby, while his sister Feather Fall struck me as a pale grey tabby with pale stripes. I never understood Petal's pelt description, so I just imagine her as a sandy tabby.
Greystripe and his one stripe down is back is something I can buy because my mother's cat is very similar -- dark grey with a darker grey stripe going down her back.
And idc what the books say, Breezepelt will always have green eyes and Crowfeather will always have blue eyes. >:(
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: SQ on October 01, 2015, 02:19:49 PM
just thought of another thing - i sometimes see jayfeather as being a bit longhaired because of the cover on the sight, i guess it just stuck. also i was reading moonrise yesterday and there was a time when leafpaw almost mistook spottedleaf for sorreltail, and i was instinctively surprised bc they look pretty different in my mind \_(ツ)_/


I always saw Jayfeather as a long haired gray tabby like..
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/18/86/58/85/scarfu12.jpg)
(thanks google images)

I always pictured Sorreltail with more white, and Spottedleaf with almost no white on her except her paws. The amount of descriptive that they get with Spottedleaf in the books is absolutely ridiculous though http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Spottedleaf


Also! I always saw Stonefur as a really scrawny gray cat even though his entire family is basically stocky cats.

On callies and torties, Brightheart is a calico in my head? I know she's just 'ginger and white' but I've like... never come across a female orange and white cat, all orange cats that I've met/cared for/fostered have been male. So the fact that they're like HERE'S A LOT OF ORANGE FEMALES really bothers me -
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Wolfie on October 27, 2015, 10:08:51 PM
Seconding what someone else said about calico is not really a term used in the UK. I'm not from there to confirm but they tend to use toshieshell and white for calico, at least that's what I remember, so I'm giving them a free pass on that one.

Anyway: I always imaged Longtail having this really gross tan/dull peachy type colour that's super light? It's hard to explain, but I don't see him as brown or silver, but probably closer to the brown.

I always forget about Greystripe's stripe. I remember being so confused when he was first called that.

I always imagined Princess as a white Turkish Angora looking cat, when she is really brown and not as long haired.

I always imagine Brindleface as being more on the flat faced side and being more of a yellow brown in colour (not sure what she is actually suppose to be though)

Brakenfur to me was always a really dark tabby.

Firestar was never a tabby to me. Not even with ghost markings.
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Barley44Ravenpaw on April 14, 2018, 08:50:43 PM
I imagine Longtail looking like a pale yellow tabby with black stripes. At first I imagined Dustpelt as a grey tabby because I paid no attention in my first book I read (Rising Storm)   :huh:
When I first read the series and didn't remember what the allegiances said, I would make up an appearance in my head. (Such as gray tabby Dustpelt). Also, when Yellowfang mentioned Brokenstar in Rising Storm, I imagined him as a black and white cat with no tail!  :huh: :huh:
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: The Violist Calico Cat on April 20, 2018, 09:44:38 AM
I saw Brindleface as a brown tabby. I thought the cat on the old Dangerous Path Cover was Brindleface emerging from the nursery. Um....I am just clueless why! :grin:
Title: Re: How do you see them?
Post by: Dustfeather on April 20, 2018, 02:12:24 PM
I saw Brindleface as a brown tabby. I thought the cat on the old Dangerous Path Cover was Brindleface emerging from the nursery. Um....I am just clueless why! :grin:

Likewise, mainly because "brindle" usually refers to a pattern in dogs that's a mottled blend of black and dark brown. I still imagine Brindleface as a dark brown tabby now.